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DIY Flue Installation

 
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Agu
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject:

Could I jump on board and ask a question, I am hopefully getting a charnwood country 4 and when I got a very rough quote ( ie just on the phone how much roughly ) I was quoted about £900 just to fit ( I planned to buy it myself ) which is more money than I have. Is it reasonably easy to DiY?? I am quite handy and have a friend who is very handy, I assume it's just a case of dropping the flue, attaching the plate things at the top and bottom and off you go. I kow I have simplied that quite considerably but is it possible to DiY it having never done it?

Thanks

Sorry for hijacking the thread

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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:30 am    Post subject:

Agu, I have split your post off into a seperate thread as I think this is a subject that may attract a lot of attention and, hopefully, helpful advice.
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Agu
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject:

Thanks Ecocentric,

I did think after I osted it I should just of started another thread.

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Bobt
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject:

Not so much a how to,

but dont forget you need Building regs approval, unless done by a heatas qualified fitter,

ask your insurance for their opinion of a DIY job, I have heard of a few not paying out if a DIY bodge was to blame.
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Fahrenheit
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject:

They're fairly easy from a practical point of view but there are a lot of building regs to take into consideration that you probably won't be aware of.....this is where the qualified tradesman comes in.

Don't forget there is a right and a wrong way to install the liner......don't get it in upside down.

If you do it properly using a liner, pot hanging cowl, register plate, adapter, data plate and pay for building control to inspect and sign it off you probably won't save an awful lot of money by the time you've paid someone to help you.

You could probably save £200.............if your happy on a roof then go for it!
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JohnH
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:17 am    Post subject:

Chris makes some very valid points.

If you're determined to DIY, check out the sticky on the forum which links to this site -

http://www.backwoodsman-stoves.co.uk/MAINMENUS/InstallationMenu.html
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Tony Hague
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:43 am    Post subject:

Fahrenheit wrote:

Don't forget there is a right and a wrong way to install the liner......don't get it in upside down.

If you do it properly using a liner, pot hanging cowl, register plate, adapter, data plate and pay for building control to inspect and sign it off you probably won't save an awful lot of money by the time you've paid someone to help you.


However, you will actually have a data plate and signed off documentation - neither of which I got from my HETAS registered installer. To his credit the job was otherwise well done, as far as I can tell (assuming the liner is in the right way up !) Point being that HETAS registration is a good sign, but not a guarantee. As with all tradesmen, chose carefully !
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Agu
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject:

Thanks guys,

I think I will give it a go myself as I am reasonable confident that between me and my mate we will get it right and safe.

I thought I would save the £900 less the building control sign off as I was planning to buy all the bits myself anyway and just pay for instalation. Well I'll see how it goes ( i prefer to be able to say yeah we did that anyway ) and then find out if I regret the decision!!!
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:12 pm    Post subject:

I do not think that £900 is to bad. I would however recommend that if you are fitting a Charnwood Country 4 that you also fit a stove pipe thermometer. The reason I say this is that although Charnwood make no mention of these, when the back plate starts to distort and you ring them they immediately blame you for overfiring...another point they fail to make in their literature. At least you can keep an eye on the temperature with these and react accordingly.

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